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[Yeti]

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Should I add 31 prayer to my strength pure, "blakdawg77", I have done the math and;

40 Attack
74 Strength
62 Hitpoints
=
52.8 Combat

40 Attack
67 Strength
55 Hitpoints
31 Prayer
=
52.5 Combat

Both come out to 22 max hit, with rune 2h.

But then again;
40 Attack
79 Strength
65 Hitpoints
=
55.1 Combat

40 Attack
70 Strength
57 Hitpoints
31 Prayer
=
54 Combat

Both of those come to 23 max hit.

So in reality, in makes perfect sense to get 31 prayer. The only two difficulties being the 250-300k cash factor and the fact that you ahve to mess around with an alter before pking.
The cash isn't that big a factor though, it's mainly the messing around with the alter.

Another HIGHLY contributing factor will be the Protect Item prayer which will save 55k X Amount of times you die. That number is about 4 right now so it would have saved me about 220k so far.

I really don't know what to do, and i'd hate to screw my pure up at this point.

Any guidance from the greats at RSB?

[Trozi]

Its going to be costly. I dont suggest it till after 70 strength.

[Yeti]

I guess I could get it on the way to 70 strength.
The cost really isn't the ploblem, i could xfer through cashoo, the problem is whether the combat levels are worth it...

[naruto rocks]

lol i hope u dont have those stats anymore

that would be sad

but then again we had those type of stats once

[Yeti]

I Lol'd, I'll just tidy up that triple post for yah and inform you; This is my pure.
:laugh:

But seriously, I hope someone else comes to the rescue. I'm quite unsure on the prayer situation.

[Rise]

I'm not going to suggest either way because you have the calculations worked out, instead I'll say a few things that might sway you either way.

- Protect item does save money, and it does not reduce your chance of good loot. (you still risk the scimitar which is 25k+ in value).

- Non-praying pures can hit their max hit forever, praying pures can only hit it for 2 or so minutes. [insert sexual joke here]

- Strength potions add a certain percent to your strength level, so non-praying pures will have a higher strength bonus than praying pures.

- If you do decide to get pray, bury bones in the wilderness. Do this at either the chaos altar or the bone yard. I got 31 prayer on my pure for free in about 2 days.

- Do you actually want the extra combat levels?
Would you prefer to be fighting at a lower combat level or a higher one?

Those are a few points that might not have com across your mind at the first though of prayer, in the end I think it comes down to personal preference and either way, your pure will still be hitting amazingly high for its combat level.

[I_HAVE_NO_NAME]

Your HP has a large difference and I think the extra HP with non-prayer should be a good enough reason to not get prayer. So you can live longer and get that last hit.

DONT GET PRAYER!! THE HP IS IMPORTANT!!

[Yeti]

Those are a few points that might not have com across your mind at the first though of prayer, in the end I think it comes down to personal preference and either way, your pure will still be hitting amazingly high for its combat level.
Don't you use prayer? How does it work for you?

Your HP has a large difference and I think the extra HP with non-prayer should be a good enough reason to not get prayer. So you can live longer and get that last hit.

DONT GET PRAYER!! THE HP IS IMPORTANT!!
I am unsure on the validity of this.
I often find myself runing from people 1-5 lower then me in monk's robes hitting 16-17's with a scim.
I'm in a state of turmoil, with many sides pulling me each way.
I am nearly positive I will be going the prayer path.
Though, the screwing around with the alter may be annoying, the money saved in the end along with the extra boost in strength seems all too tempting to resist.
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[I_HAVE_NO_NAME]

People wear monk robes just to wear them. YOu really don't want prayer.

If you get don't get prayer, you can get more strength and HP levels and be the same combat if you had prayer. And then you can drink a strength potion and you will gain more bonus levels because your strength level is higher. DONT DO IT.

[Yeti]

People wear monk robes just to wear them. YOu really don't want prayer.

If you get don't get prayer, you can get more strength and HP levels and be the same combat if you had prayer. And then you can drink a strength potion and you will gain more bonus levels because your strength level is higher. DONT DO IT.
You sure O.o
By my calculations, using SwiftKit's handy calculator...
My current max hit is 19 with the 2h
Combat 48.45
Strength:66
HitPoints:55
Max:19

With Prayer;
Combat 52.2
Strength:66
HitPoints:55
Max: 22

Max Hit Of 22 Without Prayer;
Combat ?
Strength:74
HitPoints:?
Max:22

So the variables are your combat and HP
Combat 52.3
Strength:74
HitPoints:60
Max:22

But even then, I guarentee your HP is higher then 60.

Let's jump ahead to 25 Max Hit; For further experimentation.
Combat 57.95
Strength:76
HitPoints:65[ish]
Prayer: 31
Max:25

Combat 58.375
Strength:85
HitPoints: 70
Max:25

And once again, the HP is extimated high for the prayer pure, and low for the pure str pure.


All of these calculations include "With a strength potion" and if a prayer calculation "Ultimate Strength".

Can someone point out what I am doing wrong in my calculations, it seems to me prayer is the obvious way to go.

:s

[Rise]

MY pure right now is:

58 Combat (I'm pretty sure I can get in another 1 or 2 str levels before I go up too)
Att: 42 (nub)
Str: 75
HP: 65
Prayer: 31

As for prayer working for me, Henry. Usually, I K0 my opponent and/or the fight ends before I have run out of prayer (that's only using ultimate strength in full monk robes). The only time I protect item is when I'm fighting a person with defence or over 80ish str.

As of right now, I think my 2h max is 25 and I can hit pretty consistent 20s with scimitar (usually 3 or 4 per fight).

[Rozzi]

wow....now that is a hard decision but i wouldn't put prayer on because then you will be higher cb lvl .. but its up 2 you :D

~Dark X Bow~

[Zerg]

Raising prayer wouldn't be a good idea until you get higher attack, strength, defense , etc.

Am I cool now? =P

[Rozzi]

wow....now that is a hard decision but i wouldn't put prayer on because then you will be higher cb lvl .. but its up 2 you :D

~Dark X Bow~

Yeah Am i cool now????

Yeti?
am i cool now?

[Drew boop]

- Strength potions add a certain percent to your strength level, so non-praying pures will have a higher strength bonus than praying pures.



This is definitley the biggest factor, In the amount of combat levels it takes to get 31 prayer (3 i believe) you can also get 12 strength levels, (not including HP, which might make it more).....Although they still have the same max hit without the potion....it would make no difference, however...if you made a habit of drinking a potion everytime you fight someone, Your max hit can be up to 2-3 higher with the 2H at 70-80 strength

It basically comes down to you, the disadvantage of not having prayer is what you said about the 2H


I can't decide for you, but if it was my pure i would stick with 1 prayer (but remember i have the skills to make the money again)

[Magex]

Stick with 1 prayer because of what Rise said: Once your prayer run's out, you will get owned.

[Kjeldoran90]

hmmm pm if u decide to get 31 pray, it wud cost u nxt to nothing using sum dbones on my guilded alter =D

[Shan]

I'm not sure tbh,I think Drew said Prayer taked to up too much combat when you could gain like 12 strength lvls instead of 3 prayer lvls,idk though ;).

Am I cool now?:D

[I_HAVE_NO_NAME]

Well I can't seem to talk you out of it so I don't even see what the point is. If you already want to do it, then just do it.

I was looking at it, though, and I think my calculations are pretty correct when I did this. But you could have 31 prayer using ultimate strength, have a strength potion, 68 strength and hit a 23. But you also only have 55 hp and be level 52. But if you had 78 strength, 1 prayer, and a strength potion, not only would you also hit a 23, but you would also be able to hit it more often (because prayer runs out more quickly), your HP would be higher (I had your HP go up every 3 str levels so your HP was about 58. It would probably be more in actuality), and you would be the same combat level.

So, because you have more HP and your strength would last longer, I think 1 prayer is your best bet.

[Yeti]

I have deferred from wanting prayer so bad.
We've all hit that wall of a skill, and just want to get your head off it.
Ah well, I gave up my fantasy.

[Connor]

You should get 70 strength and then get 31 prayer.